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Old 05-03-2022, 06:39 PM   #1
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I can’t speak much on the team itself but the existence of RKBro pisses me off solely because Orton should be a megastar. He should be a special attraction and treated way above teaming with a stoner surfer dude who has birds fly out of his asshole.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:13 PM   #2
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I can’t speak much on the team itself but the existence of RKBro pisses me off solely because Orton should be a megastar. He should be a special attraction and treated way above teaming with a stoner surfer dude who has birds fly out of his asshole.
well he isnt and never was a megastar. his career is nearing its end...might as well build someone up.
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I can’t speak much on the team itself but the existence of RKBro pisses me off solely because Orton should be a megastar. He should be a special attraction and treated way above teaming with a stoner surfer dude who has birds fly out of his asshole.
Don’t think I could agree more
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:22 PM   #4
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He’s 5 years older than the guy they’re using him to build up and has WAY more star potential. My comment was more condemning WWE for fucking up with him over the past 20 years but if they can even get 5 more years out of Orton full time then they should be focusing on making him the star he should have been as opposed to “using him” to build up a guy with FAR less potential than he ever had.
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He’s 5 years older than the guy they’re using him to build up and has WAY more star potential. My comment was more condemning WWE for fucking up with him over the past 20 years but if they can even get 5 more years out of Orton full time then they should be focusing on making him the star he should have been as opposed to “using him” to build up a guy with FAR less potential than he ever had.
5 years older and a couple million more bumps
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Why would Randy Orton, a 42 year old guy want to help somebody else get over when he can just say he wants to work with younger talent, but then win every single match he is in and act tough on Twitter???
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Let’s talk about it.
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there's a reason he's in a tag: its way easier on the body.
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That doesn’t really excuse the waste of bumps, which was my point.
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That doesn’t really excuse the waste of bumps, which was my point.
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Orton should have been taking half as many bumps for twice the return.
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Right. But my point is the fuck up to this point. Again…

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he's not doing much bumping these days. the guy with no shoes does all that. its the easiest pay check he's ever had
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takes a few years working tags. heals up. one final big push on his way out.
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i dont see the down side
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the bumps are virtually 0. thats the point of the entire endeavor.
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he *might* take 1 a night.
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well 2. the rko is just a giant bump.
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is the issue just who he's tagging with? cause theres no scenrio other than going home thats going to lead to less bumps than he's taking now
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He wasted a shitload of bumps underachieving. Now he’s an “old man” bumping less to help put a young guy over who won’t actually get over. The entire return of the bumps is a fraction of what it should have been.
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oh over his whole run. i get you. yeah i think its very fair to summarize ortons entire run by "failed potential."
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i think thats on him though. he had every opportunity to transcend his status.
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Right. That was my point. I don’t really care what he’s doing now and I should.
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cant even begin to argue against that
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early on i thought he would be Cenas great adversary but honestly the main event scene was very crowded and he wasnt able to rise above his peers even after being given the keys to the kingdom on multiple occasions. his legacy will be inorganic. a manufactured memory of highlight videos.
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early on i thought he would be Cenas great adversary but honestly the main event scene was very crowded and he wasnt able to rise above his peers even after being given the keys to the kingdom on multiple occasions. his legacy will be inorganic. a manufactured memory of highlight videos.
Well shit, he can join the club of inorganic legacies WWE will try to push as more of a success than they really were through a manufactured memory of highlight reels. That’s running rampant now and will be for the foreseeable future.

We can argue all day whose fault it was that he wasn’t more but when you look at what makes a star, Orton had all the tools. He came along in an era where the only game in town was no longer able to produce stars like the business as a whole used to be able to.
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Was saying the other day somewhere how it is "weird" how Orton still isn't a "big deal" and is just "a guy like anyone else"
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Old 05-03-2022, 09:50 PM   #31
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objectively orton was around while cena was coming up. cena unquestionably is a star. is it fair to say they couldnt do it at the time when he was on the rise?


flash forward 10 years and i wont give much push back...but then? cenas tenure and social status are pretty high as far as wrestlers go. he's no hogan rock or austin but the number of people who "never watched wrestling even once" and still know cena is higher than nearly everyone to have ever done it before. i dunno. its a huge topic.
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I mean, he'd have to watch the show to know that those things can be true.
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I mean, he'd have to watch the show to know that those things can be true.
To be fair, he has a great mind for the business.

He's outspoken and doesn't shy away from expressing unpopular views. We can't agree on everything. That's how democracy functions.
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Which wrestling company genuinely has better managers or a better tag team division currently than WWE?

erickman suggested Impact and the NWA. I’ve been trying to watch more NWA, but who are the featured tag teams there? In the NWA you’ve got The Briscoes. The NWA features solid wrestling, but I wasn’t aware of a truly pumping tag team division.

The WWE has got RKBro, Alpha Academy, Street Profits, Ziggler & Roode, The Usos and The New Day.
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Eh, disagree. They’re not what they could be, but Ziggler was just NXT Champion. That’s more global exposure than AEW would get. In terms of being a quality team? They shit all over most, honestly. It’s just the matter of a renewed push, which may or may not come.
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