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Old 02-03-2022, 12:51 PM   #1
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I didn't watch the Rumble. i was going to, but then realized Sunday morning that it already aired lol.

But when i read the results and saw Shane McMahon was the 2nd to last person eliminated, I just shook my head and was glad i didn't watch it. That right there is WWE in a nutshell. A 52 year old guy who hasn't been relevant in forever booking himself in a primary spot in the 2nd biggest PPV of the year. Like how does that even happen? What a mess
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But when i read the results and saw Shane McMahon was the 2nd to last person eliminated, I just shook my head and was glad i didn't watch it.
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That's right! I couldn't remember if Angle was 2000 or 2001.
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shane is unquestionably the single greatest part time worker the business has ever seen...to be as good as he is... working as much as he has...well its all moot. its nepotism and self aggrandizing and we all know it. he didnt earn anything.

and thats why the sight of him in these positions is so sour. it speaks against the notion hard work will allow you to make something of yourself because he's absorbing spots of guys working hard year round. its why everyone hated jeff jarrett so much back in the day in early TNA. his work was perfectly fine. to the level of his position even. but when he has the pen it insults us on a human level. shane is that x10.
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Is he though? He doesn't really have wrestling matches. He has garbage stunt shows. Anyone can guided through that kind of performance. He's had one actual wrestling match that I can remember. Yes it was good, but it was against AJ Styles, a guy who could probably carry wcw Powerplant wrestlers to a good match.
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No one's saying he wasnt a great entertainer. Just that a 50 something businessman should probably just go home and be a family man instead of entering a royal rumble.
I couldn’t remember who posted what I was responding to, but it turns out they were both yours, lol.

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Shane fucking sucks. Not sure why anyone would be excited to see him "wrestle".

Only appeal he's ever had was his willingness to jump off high places. Which is very unlikely to ever happen again given his age. Dude was gassed just walking to the ring. Think if he had done his signature shuffle he would have had a stroke right there.
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Is he though? He doesn't really have wrestling matches. He has garbage stunt shows. Anyone can guided through that kind of performance. He's had one actual wrestling match that I can remember. Yes it was good, but it was against AJ Styles, a guy who could probably carry wcw Powerplant wrestlers to a good match.
That assessment is just a bit much. You’re entitled to not like the guy, but I think he is obviously a bit better than that. Maybe you’re just being colorful to register a point?
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Old 02-03-2022, 01:24 PM   #7
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if not him then who
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I guess that would depend on who you classify as part time.

If rousey counts I would absolutely put her above Shane. Rough around the edges yes, but far FAR better than she has any right to be given her experience, and her work looks far better due to the physicality she applies it with.
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maybe in time id give you that. shes only got a year under her. but she could pass him for sure
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She's times better than him, save jumping off some high up place or getting thrown through the glass by Angle.


Those are the only things I think of when I hear "Shane" (well, maybe The Walking Dead too). There was a time where the stuff he did would be classified as "backyard crap".
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Old 02-03-2022, 01:34 PM   #11
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she's very difficult for me to watch. shes dangerous and if she wasnt so over her natural instincts wpuld not play well. she basically makes the wrong call everytime but she has so much real world credibility that she gets over depsite these giant eye sore matches. shes "pretty bad" fundamentally but i def think she could get really good in time.
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She looks better "in the ring" than Shane. Period.
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Old 02-03-2022, 01:36 PM   #13
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i have to look away when she works. its so green it hurts my eyes
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I mean you actually wrestled and were trained, so it likely stands out a lot more to you. To someone like me it's noticeable but not enough that its deal breaking. And again while it's rough and possibly dangerous it also looks real. Which is s breath of fresh air in wwe's women's division where 90% of the action looks as fake as a plea from a Nigerian prince.
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I mean you actually wrestled and were trained, so it likely stands out a lot more to you. To someone like me it's noticeable but not enough that its deal breaking. And again while it's rough and possibly dangerous it also looks real. Which is s breath of fresh air in wwe's women's division where 90% of the action looks as fake as a plea from a Nigerian prince.
i think she's a great act that just needs time. her credibility is sorely needed.
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Yeah again, I think it also depends on what you'd define as a "worker".

When I hear the word, I can't really disconnect it from working an actual wrestling match, and not just someone who works for a wrestling promotion and performs in some capacity.

I think the more accurate description for me, would be that Shane is the greatest part time attraction in wrestling history. Because that's all he really is.

It's just that when you hear guys described as great workers, their ability to almost kill themselves in ridiculous stunts never enters the conversation.
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Yeah again, I think it also depends on what you'd define as a "worker".

When I hear the word, I can't really disconnect it from working an actual wrestling match, and not just someone who works for a wrestling promotion and performs in some capacity.

I think the more accurate description for me, would be that Shane is the greatest part time attraction in wrestling history. Because that's all he really is.

It's just that when you hear guys described as great workers, their ability to almost kill themselves in ridiculous stunts never enters the conversation.
yeah i dont mean workrate at all. i see the disconnect. worker to me is a person who works marks. work: to elicite reaction.
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Shane is getting a rough rep as a worker in here. There have been full-time guys that can not be pulled through what he has. It’s getting tarred with the same brush as death match wrestling, but it really isn’t the same thing. And I think people should go back and watch his earlier work. He drew people into his work. His match against Test is still thought of fondly.

They’re not clinical masterpieces, but to say anyone could do them is a bit much. I saw someone say AJ Styles could drag a good match out of a WCW PowerPlant rookie. Well, there’s him and Omos. And I’m going to catch flack for saying this, but I’ve always thought that the Styles/Owens chemistry was flat too.

Shane’s work does require skill. He was a pretty great character at one point in time. People have sincerely loved/hated him. He got people to care about Steve Blackman at one point.
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No one's saying he wasnt a great entertainer. Just that a 50 something businessman should probably just go home and be a family man instead of entering a royal rumble.
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Old 02-03-2022, 01:55 PM   #22
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yeah this. Shane hasn't really bothered me until the Rumble. He's been in a lot of the "filler spots" on cards and I don't mind that. Miz, Owens, Styles...I was cool with all that. It made sense. But the way he booked himself in the Rumble was just ridiculous. He should of just came in early or midway did a spot with some other midcarder (I've heard the Theory rumors) he was going to have a singles with and be done. Not be in the final 3 just because he wanted it that way lol
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let alone hogging the last eliminated spot which is inexcusable
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Loved the Shane WM15 match for what it was. Of course when you have Rock v Austin as the main event, even though it wasn't their best match, everything is going to get overshadowed.
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Old 02-03-2022, 01:59 PM   #26
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:02 PM   #27
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Yeah X-Pac/Shane was dope

X-Pac was so fucking good, still not sure why they felt the need to add him to the nWo for the HOF to make him a "two time inductee" when he was more than deserving to be inducted on his own
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X-Factor Hall of Fame nod 2022
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Remember when Hunter had reservations about Chyna going into the Hall of Fame because of her adult career?
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Remember when Hunter had reservations about Chyna going into the Hall of Fame because of her adult career?
It wasnt just because she did porn, it is because she did a porn where she had a threesome with "Vince and Steph" characters. That distinction certainly is an understandable reason to have reservations.
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10 year old me: wooooooo Chyna helped Triple H beat Kane! DX is back to full strength!

10 year old me an hour later: WTF Triple H and Chyna just turned on X-Pac
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10 year old me: wooooooo Chyna helped Triple H beat Kane! DX is back to full strength!

10 year old me an hour later: WTF Triple H and Chyna just turned on X-Pac
Ugh I had those exact feelings, was soo pumped when they cut that small promo between the 2 matches.
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:15 PM   #33
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10 year old me: wooooooo Chyna helped Triple H beat Kane! DX is back to full strength!

10 year old me an hour later: WTF Triple H and Chyna just turned on X-Pac
YES! That shit destroyed me. Completely destroyed me
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Someone mentioned in here about Nick Kahn being Vince's son now and honestly after this whole debacle with Shane, I wouldn't mind seeing a story build where Kahn takes an on air role driving Vince more and more away from his family and trying to grasp control of WWE. That dude has heel written all over him
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:17 PM   #35
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chiming in a bit late but Shane vs Angle in 01 is one of my favorite matches ever. It was so good.
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its among the most memorable moments in the last 20 years or so of wrestling
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and ignoring the high spots the match is really good on its own merits. it gets to those high spots really organically through a well structured and well executed match
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:02 PM   #38
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It’s even more impressive when you remember it was Angle’s 3rd match of the night and he broke his tailbone halfway through the match.

I can still hear the thud of Shane’s head and shoulders hitting the concrete when the glass didn’t break on the suplex spots.
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Every good Shane match that's been mentioned here is with guys who could carry broom sticks to good matches. Fair credit to Shane that he cooperated well enough to get those good matches, but just sayin'.
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Old 02-03-2022, 04:35 PM   #40
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Every good Shane match that's been mentioned here is with guys who could carry broom sticks to good matches. Fair credit to Shane that he cooperated well enough to get those good matches, but just sayin'.
I also remember Shane having entertaining matches with Test, Steve Blackman, Big Show, and of course Vince himself so I dunno.

Those matches were all heavily booked to make Shane look good while also getting his ass kicked. I liked that era of Shane. I do not like the current era where Shane is booked to be the equal of his competitors in both talent and conditioning. That’s ridiculous.
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