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Damian Rey 07-17-2013 07:07 PM

Did they officially state that stories and arcs previous to the New 52 were no longer being made? Or just that they're going to start hitting up the New 52 for source material? Two very different things.

Lock Jaw 07-17-2013 08:13 PM

Yeah, there is still always hope (unless you are Kalyx). Even then, though, they could adapt old universe stories, but use crappy new universe costumes.

Kalyx triaD 07-17-2013 11:17 PM

No matter the media implications, Flashpoint was fucking crazy.

Lock Jaw 07-18-2013 12:20 AM

Didn't know it was out. I will try to find a copy tomorrow.

slik 07-18-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4248496)
NOOOOOOOO.

Following Flashpoint.... it is official, the next DC Animated movie is moving into the universe of the New 52. "Justice League: War" will be based on the first New 52 Justice League story.

I really hope this doesn't mean that we never see anything from the old universe adapted again.... or that we never see the old costumes as well.

I didn't like the first Justice League story.


I would be ok with an adaption of 'Court of Owls' the Batman story though. I really enjoyed that.

slik 07-18-2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4249748)
No matter the media implications, Flashpoint was fucking crazy.

I'm curious to see the animated film because I actually liked the comic book series.

It's rare these days to have an 'event' that is self-contained within 5 issues and doesn't require reading a bazillion tie-ins to follow what is going on.

Thought the Batman mini-series was fantastic.

slik 07-18-2013 12:59 AM

What does everyone think of 'Trinity War' so far?

I like that it will be over and done with in two months but it just seems like it is missing something so far. It just doesn't have the 'wow' factor yet for me.

Lock Jaw 07-18-2013 01:03 AM

Haven't read Trinity War because it does not fall within the group of books that I still bother to keep up with.

Kalyx triaD 07-18-2013 01:48 PM

I want a whole movie about Thomas Wayne-Batman in the Flashpoint universe. His origin manages to be more depressing than what we seen with Bruce.

dronepool 07-18-2013 09:49 PM

Flashpoint Paradox was great. Pleasantly more violent than I'd expect. Worth buying when it's a bit cheaper for sure.

Krimzon7 07-19-2013 11:54 PM

Flashpoint Paradox was simply amazing to me. It was very much worth the wait. I'm loved seeing Aqualad, Tula, Tempest, Manta outside of Young Justice.



Still carrying a torch over here.

Lock Jaw 07-20-2013 02:12 PM

It was alrighgt.

Nowhere Man 07-20-2013 05:25 PM

So, ummm, some rather big news coming out of SDCC......

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McLegend 07-20-2013 05:48 PM

That is rather big news.

Lock Jaw 07-20-2013 06:25 PM

2015 is one packed year for movies. Half of them are going to "bomb" just because people will get tired of a "must see blockbuster" coming out every other week.

The Destroyer 07-20-2013 06:32 PM

Please don't screw it up.

Kalyx triaD 07-20-2013 07:39 PM

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Blitz 07-21-2013 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4251585)
2015 is one packed year for movies. Half of them are going to "bomb" just because people will get tired of a "must see blockbuster" coming out every other week.

Oh yeah, definitely.

Kalyx triaD 07-21-2013 03:40 PM

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Lock Jaw 07-21-2013 04:46 PM

Still need to finish season 1 of that show

Nowhere Man 07-21-2013 05:08 PM

Hot damn, Black Canary!

Lock Jaw 07-23-2013 03:36 PM

Two more DC Animated Movies announced:

"Son of Batman" based on Grant Morrison's Batman and Son.

and "Batman: Assault on Arkham". No info on what this is based on.

Kalyx triaD 07-23-2013 04:41 PM

All the Batman animated stuff was great, these should be cool.

slik 07-23-2013 04:51 PM

Son of Batman isn't post new-52 so there is still hope for older stories.

Wonder who will voice Damian?

Kalyx triaD 07-23-2013 04:52 PM

Almost certainly Chandler Riggs. That's just a guess from the top of my head but I am so sure of it.

Lock Jaw 07-23-2013 05:19 PM

I bet Kalyx has some inside info because of that one time Chandler Riggs got to meet him.

Kalyx triaD 07-23-2013 06:03 PM

If I knew about these movies I certainly would have choked it out of him, or at least suggested he lobby for it. Then again casting is down by the time we hear about it.

Damian Rey 07-23-2013 10:48 PM

Son of Batman sounds fun, and points to DC not forgetting about any past stories that can still be adapted to film.

Lock Jaw 07-23-2013 11:06 PM

Be interesting to see if they have Tim Drake as Robin or Red Robin to bring it in line with New 52 continuity.

dronepool 07-23-2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

"Son of Batman" based on Grant Morrison's Batman and Son.
YES!

DaveBrawl 07-30-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

The CW Developing The Flash as a Spinoff of Arrow

More DC heroes look to be coming to The CW, as the network is developing The Flash -- simply titled "Flash" it seems --- as a spinoff of Arrow. Deadline reported the news, revealing Arrow’s Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg and director David Nutter are working on the project, along with DC’s Geoff Johns. The current plan is to introduce Flash on Arrow this coming season to set up the spinoff series. Berlanti and Kreisberg would run the series with Nutter – whose many pilots include Smallville and Arrow -- directing the pilot, written by Berlanti, Kreisberg and Johns. Berlanti and Kreisberg’s fellow Arrow EP Marc Guggenheim will not be involved in Flash, staying focused on Arrow.

This past year, The CW was developing a Wonder Woman series, Amazon. While that project didn’t turn into a pilot this spring, the network said in May they were still developing it. However, Deadline says the network “has hit the pause button” on Amazon, yet another frustrating delay for Wonder Woman fans hoping to see a new live-action version of that character.

However, with Arrow a hit for The CW, the network – co-owned by Warner Bros. – clearly wants to get more DC Comics adaptations on the air, as the network’s overall lineup turns increasingly to genre projects.
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It will be interesting to see how Flash is incorporated into Arrow’s world, which so far has had no characters with superpowers appear. Many of us hoping to see DC build a bigger cinematic/live-action universe have wondered if they could tie Arrow into Man of Steel, indicating Arrow takes place in the same world as that film and opening the door to super-powered characters existing. It’s still unclear if that will occur, but Flash’s introduction certainly would be interesting and raise questions about whether we’re meeting members of a potential Justice League movie cast on TV as well as film, as the Batman vs. Superman movie nears in 2015.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/...inoff-of-arrow

slik 07-30-2013 12:19 PM

Glad to see Flash get more attention. :y:

Kalyx triaD 07-30-2013 01:12 PM

Barry's back on TV, though I have a feeling it will be Wally.

DaveBrawl 07-30-2013 01:31 PM

Makes me want to go back and watch the old CBS Flash series.

Hopefully it's still as great as I remember.

Kalyx triaD 07-30-2013 01:45 PM

How old were you?

DaveBrawl 07-30-2013 03:47 PM

Like 7. I know it won't be that good, which is why I haven't actually gone back to watch it, but I can still view it through nostalgia.

Kalyx triaD 07-30-2013 04:01 PM

That feeling's overrated, but do like to hear the MMPR theme every once and a while.

Lock Jaw 07-30-2013 04:06 PM

Never saw The Flash TV show. I think I tried to watch it a few years ago, and got through the pilot, but that was about it.

McLegend 07-30-2013 06:39 PM

I hope the Flashhe doesn't have powers, because super powers are going to ruin Arrow.

Get all super powers away from Arrow.

Kalyx triaD 07-30-2013 06:42 PM

So... what exactly do you suggest?

McLegend 07-30-2013 06:43 PM

No Flash series or other any superhero in the same universe as Arrow.


Keep everything grounded.

Kalyx triaD 07-30-2013 07:25 PM

They're not having that conversation. Barry's appearing in Arrow, his origin may take place as soon as this season. It's happening.

Now how do you suggest they handle his signature ability?

DaveBrawl 07-30-2013 08:12 PM

A really fast Segway.

Lock Jaw 07-30-2013 08:17 PM

Kenyan dude

McLegend 07-30-2013 08:21 PM

Really fast typer?

Miotch 07-30-2013 08:57 PM

3 pump chump

parkmania 07-31-2013 12:32 AM

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics...h_Complete.jpg

The suit's worse than George Clooney's Batnipple costume.

Kalyx triaD 07-31-2013 12:40 AM

I like the Clooney better in general, since I always thought that Flash suit was overly buff.

slik 07-31-2013 01:30 AM

Batman, Incorporated ends today, as does Grant Morrison's seven-year run on the Bat.

I predict, like most Bat-things Morrison writes, it will end with a whimper rather than a bang (Final Crisis, Batman RIP, etc).

Lock Jaw 07-31-2013 01:34 AM

Disliked most of his run. Loved what other writers were able to do with the status quo he created, though.

slik 07-31-2013 01:39 AM

I would agree with that statement.

I'm really enjoying Scott Snyder's take on the bat so far, I hear Tomasi's stuff is often outstanding.

slik 07-31-2013 02:21 AM

I think Grant's problem is he doesn't follow thru on anything he writes. He introduces twists and new plot developments and tends to leave them as is. I heard Kathy Kane was revealed alive in Batman Inc. I imagine nothing will come of this.

Final Crisis for all it's hype, ended up being dull and was way overshadowed by Blackest Night and Flashpoint. Batman RIP promised 'the most shocking moment in Batman's 70 year history,' and ended with Batman disappearing in the Gotham River in a helicopter explosion.

For everything I enjoy, such as the explanation for Batman's wacky adventures in the 60's and Bat-Mite, and the existence of Damian, there are all the things Grant starts and never resolves, like Dr. Hurt, Damian making a deal with the devil, the entire storyline of Mandrakk the Monitor, etc.

I was reading an interview with him where he discussed his take on Wonder Woman and I caught myself going 'oh, that sounds interesting' and then remembered it was Grant Morrison and it will go absolutely nowhere with any form of resolution, just ideas thrown up all over the place.

Lock Jaw 07-31-2013 02:32 AM

Yeah, Snyder and Tomasi have both been doing great things

dronepool 07-31-2013 03:29 AM

Batman Incorporated I'll get it next week. I loved Grant's run. I just dropped Snyders book in issue 22 or something, it's not bad I just don't care anymore and I'm not interested in the recent arc one bit.

So yeah, no more DC books for me until Multiverse or whatever Grant is doing.

Damian Rey 07-31-2013 10:10 PM

I have loved Snyder's run. The Court of Owl's was really good. Loved the Joker arc, and, while building slowly, the current Zero Year run is promising.

Kane Knight 08-01-2013 09:27 AM

Amazon's advertising the Kindle versions of all 66 issues of the Flashpoint series for .99 apiece temporarily. Don't know if the series is any good, or if people here even use the kindle app for comics reading, but there it is.

Reavant 08-01-2013 12:04 PM

If you havnt been reading the injustice comic... get on it

Lock Jaw 08-01-2013 12:06 PM

Does it require the game to "fully get"?

Reavant 08-01-2013 02:08 PM

nope... in fact the game spoils some of the twists

Lock Jaw 08-01-2013 02:23 PM

Reading up on it. Apparently it is a prequel to the game? So I will never get a complete story unless I buy the game. Nuts to that.

Reavant 08-01-2013 02:43 PM

ugh... yes its a prequel, but one you can watch the cinematics of whats going on in the game on youtube, and the story is awesome

Kalyx triaD 08-01-2013 05:13 PM

Awesome's a strong word.

Lock Jaw 08-01-2013 05:17 PM

I do hear good things about the comic. Though if I am not gonna get the whole story, I don't want it. I will see if they adapt the game story once they get to that point.

Reavant 08-01-2013 05:36 PM

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Heres the entire game story ya lazy fuck

Reavant 08-01-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4261109)
Awesome's a strong word.

have you been reading the comic?

Kalyx triaD 08-01-2013 08:33 PM

I seen the entire story of the game, which I figure you were referring to, and I wouldn't call it 'awesome'. Me and the guys did find it hilarious, though.

I read a few pages of the first comic issue. Not my cup of tea. I mean, while it may make for an interesting videogame we're talking narrative threads that's been done to death in the comics and at least three times in the DCAU alone. I'm straight.

Reavant 08-01-2013 11:00 PM

read more than just the first couple pages of the digital comics

Kalyx triaD 08-02-2013 12:35 AM

I don't owe any story more than the initial pages that should have hooked me to begin with. Even that was me being generous since I think Injustice is kinda ass anyway.

Lock Jaw 08-02-2013 12:52 AM

Come on bro, most comics can't hook you in a few pages alone.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 02:34 AM

I'm with Kalyx. I enjoyed the Injustice story for what it was , but its nothing special IMO.

At this point, I'm getting a bit sick of alternate reality stories. And I'm a guy who used to love that shit.

Kalyx triaD 08-02-2013 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4261647)
Come on bro, most comics can't hook you in a few pages alone.

Which is why I don't read most comics. In fact I said before how most my consumption of comic characters come from every media but comics themselves. It takes something badass to make me sit down and deal with wacky continuities, the worse art in years, and silly stunt arcs. I. Am. Straight.

2001-2009, for me, was a great time to read hero books. I still have original prints of Superman/Batman with the Ed M. art. I have Ultimate Spidey number 1. A gang load of Transformers by Dreamwave before they folded. But at this point I'm good off that. Cartoons and movies for me.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 03:22 AM

Worst art in years? I believe you're thinking of the 90's.

Kalyx triaD 08-02-2013 03:32 AM

No reason to count back that far. The art from the time I was buying every month is way better than now, save for the occasion event story where a great artist gets to work. Saying it's better than the 90s is a cop out. Everything is better than that period.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 03:33 AM

Honestly, over the past 10 years, the art work has been one of the best things about comics. It's a big part of what got me back into comics in 03'.

So many distinct, yet recognizable styles. Feel like there were a ton of books in the 90's that looked like the artists were just phoning it in. Like the art in the 3 musketeers advertisement was better than the art of the actual book.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4261775)
No reason to count back that far. The art from the time I was buying every month is way better than now, save for the occasion event story where a great artist gets to work. Saying it's better than the 90s is a cop out. Everything is better than that period.

Dunno man, I've seen no drop in quality in the industry as a whole. Maybe the books you were reading switched to artists you didn't appreciate as much, but speaking as someone who has a massive pull list, there is just as much great art now, as there was in 01'-09'.

Kalyx triaD 08-02-2013 03:42 AM

Perhaps I could be swayed, but that's still one gripe out of two. I can't keep up with Marvel and the New 52 can go fuck itself.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 03:46 AM

Marvel is easier to follow, but by biggest gripe is how they never commit to anything.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 03:56 AM

Like why the fuck should anything matter when the status quo is going to be reset to default anyway.

I mean they still manage to tell some great stories, but there's potential for hundreds more if they would just stick to their guns.

Did any one give a shit about Scarlet Witch's return to the avengers recently? Does any one here even know about it? Imagine if they would have committed to her as a villain. Just this psycho reality warping, galactus level threat, for like 10-15 years. Her redemption could have been the event of the year, and in the mean time, you e got a truly scary threat for the marvel universe.

That's just one example. There have been countless others.

Kalyx triaD 08-02-2013 04:11 AM

I remember tearing in to that before.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 04:25 AM

I also loved the way she "attacked" people by disassembling them into thousands of puzzle pieces. Was a really cool looking effect. Would have liked to of seen her do that to more heroes over the years.

There's also the potential of her teaming with her brother after his fall from grace. Another lost opportunity.

Reavant 08-02-2013 12:37 PM

They did a pretty cool thing with her and Hope summers destroying the Phoenix force.

Reavant 08-02-2013 12:38 PM

And the artwork now is great. The artists that did the latest carnage books were unreal. Too bad it was wasted on a Carnage story.

Reavant 08-02-2013 12:41 PM

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...1_Textless.jpg

http://www.the-walls.net/wp-content/...s-Usa-Flag.jpg

http://comicrelated.com/graphics/pag...RNAGE001-0.jpg

Reavant 08-02-2013 12:41 PM

when did we ever see artwork like that in comics???

Kalyx triaD 08-02-2013 03:20 PM

I don't count covers. I have countless covers in my HDD, they're often great. I'm talking interiors.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 03:38 PM

Interiors can often be just as good as that.

Miotch 08-02-2013 03:42 PM

Love how you are all talking about Marvel in the DC thread.

Fignuts 08-02-2013 03:46 PM

As far as the artwork discussion goes, I'm talking the entire industry.

Kalyx triaD 08-02-2013 04:07 PM

Yeah we're not Nazi's about it.

Miotch 08-02-2013 04:50 PM

I have no issue about it, I just found it note worthy.

Reavant 08-03-2013 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4262170)
I don't count covers. I have countless covers in my HDD, they're often great. I'm talking interiors.

the interiors in those issues are the exact same type art as that

Reavant 08-03-2013 02:38 AM

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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2...uo1_r2_500.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...4_p13_copy.jpg

Kalyx triaD 08-03-2013 02:57 AM

Some cover artists do interiors. Okay.

Fignuts 08-03-2013 02:59 AM

A lot of them do interiors. In fact I feel like more often than not, the cover art matches the interior.

Reavant 08-03-2013 10:42 AM

http://i1.cdnds.net/12/39/618x478/co...ew_x_men_1.jpg

http://www.hypergeeky.com/wp-content...ew-X-Men-9.png

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...rth-91126).jpg

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Kalyx triaD 08-15-2013 12:52 PM

Executive producer Marc Guggenheim explains how the Arrow universe can support a presumably more fantastical spin-off, The Flash:

"I think a lot of people are justified in asking 'What does this mean for Arrow in terms of its tone?' And my answer is that the trick that we have – and this is a challenge we've discusses a lot and have an awareness of how to face it head on – is the fact that 'Arrow' is like 'Iron Man' where 'The Flash' will be 'The Hulk.' And just as 'The Hulk' coming out did not change the tone of the Iron Man movies, 'The Flash' will not change the tone of 'Arrow.' We're very cognizant of what 'Arrow' is all about, and I think the Marvel movies demonstrate that each piece of a universe can have its own feel. 'Thor' is consistent with the tone of Thor while 'Captain America' is consistent with the tone of Captain America's character. 'Arrow's' tone will remain consistent much in the same way, and we are looking forward to expanding our canvass a bit. And judging from the announcement, I think the fans are looking forward to it as well."

McLegend 08-15-2013 01:32 PM

Boooooo

Kalyx triaD 08-15-2013 04:13 PM

I like it. Makes sense.

DaveBrawl 08-15-2013 04:32 PM

Anything involving more DC characters always has my support.

Lock Jaw 08-18-2013 12:17 AM

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